Amazing – BoM adopts rational view Perth rain history

News today from Perth hat tip to Chris Gillham – Perth weather: Why the Bureau of Meteorology dropped more than a century of rainfall figures 3Jul18 Facts are Perth region rain changed to a lower rain regime about 1975 – over 40 years ago. Of course it makes sense to view Perth region rain against post 1975 records because that is the rain regime Perth is experiencing. Anybody is still free to quote the older higher rain numbers pre 1975. The WA Govt can still bleat on about “our drying climate” as their assorted Water Depts do. Of course there are regions of Australia where the opposite has happened and rain has increased. About a decade ago the WA Ag. Dept used to advise farmers to use 30 or 35 year rain averages to avoid having unrealistic rain expectations – made sense. The WA Govt views on their rain history have oozed east to scaremonger eastern States water policies – on for example the needless introduction of several seawater desal plants at a total cost of many $Billions. More later on this. Just in May the WA Govt Water Corporation stopped publishing Perth dams rain numbers.

9 thoughts on “Amazing – BoM adopts rational view Perth rain history”

  1. The article is about only one station; to be really rational they would need to adopt post 1975 averages for a region. Did you ever hear back from BoM re those huge data gaps in that group of Perth dams rain stations?

  2. Got this response today to my – how old – complaint re Perth dam catchments rain recording. I tried the 2 links at the end and got “server not found messages” – If anybody connects at either link –
    As a Support Rep to view this Incident Ticket via the iSupport Support Rep interface click on isupport/Rep/Incident/Default.aspx?ID=337622

    For customers to view this Incident Ticket via the iSupport Support End User Interface click on isupport/user/Incident/View/337622
    please let me know what info is there.
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    Subject: [I7CD68196A] NEW – REF2018-158-6. – Complaint re Perth dam catchments shoddy rain recording [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
    From: isupportnotification@bom.gov.au
    Date: Thu, July 12, 2018 12:57 pm
    To: sanur2007 -dah-dah- warwickhughes.com
    Priority: Normal
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    iSUPPORT HELPDESK SYSTEM INCIDENT/REQUEST NOTIFICATION MESSAGE

    This is an automated message informing you that a support request from Warwick Hughes has been received via email and has been automatically logged by iSupport as a Incident I7CD68196A with a Priority listed as Medium and has been assigned to [CSS – Support Input] Queue

    The Incident description has been documented as follows:

    .

    Dear BoM,
    How is this complaint going?
    Your reference number in relation to your email is REF2018-158-6.
    Major rainfall data gaps Perth dam catchments
    Dear BoM,
    Can you please explain why the following stations have such incomplete
    rain data.
    Are the BoM planning to bring these data up to date? When do you expect
    this will be done?
    Is the BoM planning to improve future coverage and data collection for
    Perth dam catchments?

    Mundaring Weir 9031 – last data April 2016
    www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/wData/wdata?p_nccObsCode=136&p_display_type=dailyDataFile&p_stn_num=009031&p_startYear=

    Victoria Dam 9216 no totals for 2014-2015 partial data 2016 & no total
    2017 no data Jan or Apr-Jul 2018
    www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/wData/wdata?p_nccObsCode=136&p_display_type=dailyDataFile&p_stn_num=009216&p_startYear=

    Churchman Brook 9010 – 2017 missing Feb, Mar, Apr, Jun, Nov, Dec. – nil
    for 2018
    www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/wData/wdata?p_nccObsCode=136&p_display_type=dailyDataFile&p_stn_num=009010&p_startYear=

    Wungong Dam 9044 – no total for 2014 – nothing after March 2018
    www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/wData/wdata?p_nccObsCode=136&p_display_type=dailyDataFile&p_stn_num=009044&p_startYear=

    Serpentine Main Dam 9115 – missed Jul 2015 – no data after May 2016
    www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/wData/wdata?p_nccObsCode=136&p_display_type=dailyDataFile&p_stn_num=009115&p_startYear=

    Many thanks in anticipation,
    yours sincerely,
    Warwick Hughes 0417 929 802

    As a Support Rep to view this Incident Ticket via the iSupport Support Rep interface click on isupport/Rep/Incident/Default.aspx?ID=337622

    For customers to view this Incident Ticket via the iSupport Support End User Interface click on isupport/user/Incident/View/337622

  3. New email from BoM today closing my complaint.
    iSUPPORT HELPDESK SYSTEM INCIDENT NOTIFICATION MESSAGE

    This is an automated message informing you that support request I7CD68196A for customer Warwick Hughes has been closed.

    INCIDENT DETAILS

    Ticket Number: I7CD68196A
    Date/Time opened: 12/07/2018 12:57:08 PM

    ISSUE DESCRIPTION

    REF2018-158-6. – Complaint re Perth dam catchments shoddy rain recording

    ISSUE RESOLUTION

    notification only.

    Assignee: Nidhi Rekhi
    As a Support Rep to view this Incident Ticket via the iSupport Support Rep interface click on isupport/Rep/Incident/Default.aspx?ID=337622

    For customers to view this Incident Ticket via the iSupport Support End User Interface click on isupport/user/Incident/View/337622

    I still get a “Server Not Found” message (using Firefox) when I try to open these links. If any body gets to read the BoM messages at the above link – please copy and paste here. A reader in France also got the “Server not found on Safari and on Chrome for both links.”

  4. I think a clue here when i click the “try it now” button is that the site is not public. You may need to be either a logged in “REP” or a “USER” to get access.
    www.isupport.com/
    That the BoM send you a dead end address like that without any other clues is a hint that they don’t know or care how their own system works or if you can work with it.

  5. Another 2 days pass – no BoM reply to my emails asking for a BoM response I can read. We live in weird times.

  6. Your comments appreciated thanks. I noticed a decade ago that post ~2000 rain data was more gappy than 19th or 20th century data.
    I posted a few examples
    Deterioration in BoM rainfall data quality this decade 19Oct2008
    www.warwickhughes.com/blog/?p=178
    sorry those links are now dud but you can easy bring the monthly data up in CDO
    www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/weatherData/av?p_nccObsCode=139&p_display_type=dataFile&p_startYear=&p_c=&p_stn_num=085021
    and
    www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/weatherData/av?p_nccObsCode=139&p_display_type=dataFile&p_startYear=&p_c=&p_stn_num=083033
    It is a problem right through the network except modern AWS stations such as at airports are better. So whenever building a rain history for a rural town say there is almost always some patching to do from sites maybe 30km away.

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