The Pauline Hanson One Nation party (PHON) is the only party with a rational climate/carbon/electricity price policy – see points 1 to 6.
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Must say I am impressed with the policies in th One Nation manifesto. Good luck to them. If I was an Australian, they would have my vote.
Cheers
Roger
The retirement of Key is a fascinating event Roger – seeing as pollies who are seen as ruling well do not always retire as he has. I wonder what upside National has in the runup to the next election. Do you think Key can help English into PM suite or could the caucus elect somebody else? I saw a week or so ago news that National was looking at an ex Labour candidate for a seat near Wellington – name of Nick Leggett I think.
m.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11757918
The Liberal party over here has has its share of lefties who are really in the wrong party. I suppose if I was a Nat tactician I would say in the above case – “only if he can win a seat that we could not win with a more mainline National candidate”
Hey howabout this shot? This is John Cook of Cook et al. The 97% consensus man. 3.bp.blogspot.com/-YjAuuF_S9Mw/VcAe7iCtgwI/AAAAAAAASos/kQIzgsxeHoM/s1600/Screen%2BShot%2B2015-08-04%2Bat%2B11.51.34%2Bam.png
Cheers
Roger
Whether PHON has a sensible energy policy or not is irrelevant.
Waffle is at it again, no surprise of course, and this time, who will stop him ?
The Lower House is on a 1-vote lifeline, no Lib will cross the floor. Katter ? He will be bought off. Some Libs will bellyache for a while, then go dead quiet.
The Senate ? Combine a few Libs (perhaps some will abstain), the Greenies and the ALP (after suitable increases in the tax rates and ramp-ups) and the legislation will sail through.
I don’t see a useful point in denying this. It’s simply obvious.
There are 16 Nats in the Reps. There seems no reason for MT to have announced something so provocative as a defacto C Tax – however you christen the beast that compels the buying of C based credits – a scheme, a price or a “co-payment” or a tax it will flow down and cost mug voting consumers just like the C Tax did. And at a time when the electricity grid is frequently subject to price shocks, rising prices and blackouts you might think that a sane policy setting for this parliament would be – “lets just bed down the closure of Hazelwood – let our expert grid engineers learn from the new post Hazelwood situation for a year or so”.
MT seems to miss that the MRET scheme is already putting a price on carbon which we are paying in rising power bills.
All of the above is just increasing reasons for voters to support PHON whenever the opportunity presents.
Spot on Warwick. It’s only when you see what a sensible policy looks like that you realise what a mess we have gotten ourselves into with energy policy. One Nation proposes among other things:
– No payments to UN and other bodies for “international climate action”
– Abolish Renewable Energy Target and remove renewable energy subsidies.
Just these measures alone would save billions a year, and make for a far more productive economy through lower power prices and more reliable supply. But instead the Libs want to make things worse by bringing back the carbon tax. As you say, this is just handing votes to One Nation.
> “There are 16 Nats in the Reps …”
And none wish to lose power by crossing the floor; so they won’t.
Waffle doesn’t care for the Nats, or for the cost of civilised electricity. His vanity – peaked by the near loss of office in July, the seeming tempests of Brexit and Trump – needs only to be seen as saving the planet, his vindinctiveness needs only satisfying by thumping those who refuse to vote for him. He’s a pr..ck.
Yes, he will possibly help PHON grow, but small political parties have a very long history of disintegrating as individual members succumb to various bribes. PHON is not likely to be different. Maybe I’m wrong but Pollyanna hope is unappealing to me.
Well, this time it seems Pollyanna won – I was indeed too pessimistic.
According to the SMH (December 6), Frydenberg has retreated 180o in a rattled response to ferocious backbench resistance to any “price on carbon” (in itself, an utterly meaningless phrase). Fairfax is crying into its’ latte, of course.
For the time being, Waffle hasn’t even won a Pyrrhic victory. And both Morrison and Frydenberg are seen as excellent examples of what happens when you do Waffle’s dirty work. I suspect both of these Ministers would agree with my description of Waffle in the above comment. Good work all round, it seems 🙂
Until the next go …
Maybe that was another Prime Ministerial thought bubble by Malcolm Turnbull. I see Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg is quickly hosing down any idea of a Carbon Tax.
“Energy Minister backtracks on emissions intensity scheme comments amid carbon price debate” 6 Dec 16
www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-07/energy-minister-backtracks-on-emissions-intensity-scheme/8098196
[A possible new price on carbon has been taken off the table by Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg, after a backlash from some government backbenchers.
“I’m not contemplating that scheme because what I’m focused on is how to keep down electricity prices,” Mr Frydenberg said.
The moves comes two days after he announced an energy review, which included how power companies could pay for carbon emissions.]
Sounds like Govt members have got a message across to Josh for now.
I am guessing there is speaking with forked tongues going on and opponents of any variety of C Tax will have to fight those battles again next year and beyond.
I now see the Member for Golden Sachs, Chairman Malfunction Waffler backpeddling faster than a speeding bullet: “never ever ever supported a tax on carbon!”. Ha!
It is hilarious Tom – Amazing the effect a few phone calls can have on the brain.
After watching Waffle for the last few weeks, discombobulated beyond control he is.
So what could do that ? My guess – Trump’s election victory. Waffle is completely at sea now. The possibility of a Trump win was not at all considered in WaffleWorld, so now everything he’d hoped for, everything he’d dreamed … without an anchor or a lefty ally in a treacherous world. And his domestic enemies now watching every little spasm like hawks.
I think you hit the nail fair and square ianl8888 – Think of the fury deep in Govt circles at the prospect of their Manus & Nauru “country shopper” deal with Obama not passing the Trump pub test. And no way out of it – just a comprehensive run-over-by-a-truck defeat. Imagine the ideas being thrown around in their strategy sessions – there must be a country SOMEWHERE!!!
Worse re the country shoppers. An Obama press guy had to give the bad news to an Aussie correspondent in public in the White House. Oh to be a fly on a wall somewhere in the Dept of P.M. bunkers when that little factoid registered in the Turnbull mental processes. Needs a new clip from the “Downfall” geniuses. You have to wonder why we have diplomats. Surely that bad news could have been hushed up and buried. I heard Sinodonis claiming they had been polishing the deal for much of a year.
Warwick
A few weeks ago I heard a snatch of an interview with Waffle on the car radio. He was responding with complete exasperation to a question about whether Trump would honour the country shopper deal he’d done with Obama: “There’s only one US President at a time!”, he shouted.
Then we see the punch up about taxing CO2 emissions re-indulged, while simultaneously watching the SA and Tas debacles, the closure of Hazelwood, the death rattle of the Portland Alcoa smelter, the insane posturing of the ALP on “aspirational targets” without the slightest empirical concept of how to manage that.
Waffle is acting out – how dare the little people, from any country, interfere with his vanity ?
I hope people saw this gem from WA, dedication to duty.
Meet Ron and Marye, One Nation’s unlikely WA powerbrokers 10 Dec 2016
www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-09/the-couple-behind-pauline-hansons-one-nation-operation-in-wa/8108552