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Australian Liberty Alliance talking water at election meetings in the NSW Riverina

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This is a good sign for those communities – we need Senators who will vote for water supplies to people and water for irrigation. Our pioneers taxed themselves to build dams for people and irrigation – not to waste on environmental flows. At the next election vote ALA 1 – then your selected right of centre groups such as Family First & DLP – then Govt candidates – then Labor – always put Greens last.
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29 thoughts on “Australian Liberty Alliance talking water at election meetings in the NSW Riverina”

  1. The ALA website still avoids detailing any real policies

    Unless I see detailed, costed, accountable policies on real issues – tax, immigration, health, superanuation – well before the election I will NOT vote for them

    Hiding behind “policy being developed” is exactly what every other slippy-slidey politician does. How is the ALA different ?

  2. They are new to the scene – I am sure they are under-resourced – doing the best they can so far I think. As new-comers their best hope is a toe-hold in the Senate – so they hardly need comprehensive national policies. But having said that the policies I have seen are OK for an early stage of evolution.

  3. I repeat, hard, detailed, costed, accountable policies BEFORE the election – from all the slippy-slideys – is what is needed. We will never have that

    e) none of the above

    still the best option for both Houses

  4. @ ianl8888
    When are you going to join ALA (not to be confused with the self confessed RACIST Allah Quran 5:51) and give them the information that you are so jealously keeping to yourself?

  5. They are going to get my vote. They appear to be mature in their approach and they stand openly against political correctness. They have the guts to call for a 10 year halt on Muslim migration, which is what most Australians want.

  7. has anyone heard of this party www.sovereigntyparty.org.au/page/tax#.VwroP_9f3X6
    I’m interested in water policies – this party proposes a debit tax at a flat rate of 2% – that is a tax on spending and to abolish all other taxes
    and about water 1). We will commence construction of the greatest water storage system and pipeline ever built from the northern water soaked regions to the dryer southern areas of Australia. We will bring an abundance of water to where it is needed, and drought proof Australia. This investment, this capital, will be in the hands of the Australian people, not for the profit of private interests.

    The pumping stations can be powered by new solar collector power stations that take advantage of the strong sunshine that bakes the outback of Australia. Such a massive project will provide thousands of jobs, help stimulate the economy, and provide a massive boost to Australian farms.
    We will also build dams as necessary right across Australia to ensure long term storage is sufficient to endure even lengthy droughts that may affect the whole continent. Any negative environmental impact of dam building will be more than offset by the ASP’s greening of the deserts, tree planting program, the ability to utilise more water to improve public and private parks and gardens, and other environmental policies.
    ESTIMATED COST $80 Billion ($10 billion a year over an 8 year period)

  8. hey Warwick, twice tried to post a comment but it disappears into your spam – if you can find it it’s about the Australian Sovereignty Party and the only link I posted was to that party’s website – in some ways its water policy reflects that of the Australian Liberty Alliance. The ASP are proposing to introduce a debit tax of 2% on spending and to abolish all other taxes and has calculated its water policy which includes dam building at $80 M.

  9. Sorry Val – I can not control the spam issues – but mostly comments can be recovered. Often my own comments go into spam – no kidding. That site you linked to sure puts up lots of answers.

  10. it’s water policy sounds a bit like the ALA’s but I’m aware the ALA has quite a detailed water policy and that’s where the two policies differ I think, what’s going to happen to the Murray mouth? Does anyone know?

  12. I was giving thought to the ALA until listened to an interview with one of their organisers on 2GB. Following that interview I completely dismissed any idea of supporting them in either upper or lower house.

  14. thanks to Bikini, yes I see the The Australian Sovereignty Party was registered on 2 July 2013 and deregistered on 30 July 2015. Reason: s.137(6) – failure to demonstrate requisite 500 members to maintain registration. Same link as Bikini but go to the link on that page Deregistered Parties
    Ted M any further info on the interview you heard?

  15. Warwick my comment went to your spam again, don’t know why – didn’t put in any links!

  17. @ wazsah same same on the 2gb search

    Yes I am an ALA member and a Q Society supporter.

  19. Wazah I did a search on 2GB myself as well, found no podcast. From memory it was on Steve Price’s segment. Podcasts aren’t necessarily done for all interviews though,

    I can remember that the interview was with a woman, was very good at not being specific on anything she was asked. Typical politician I thought.

  20. @ TedM
    was it Mrs Smith the NSW Senate Candidate that runs Halalchoices.com.au
    or was it Mrs Robinson the ALA President and W.A. Senate Candidate, I am friends with both of them and they are very articulate, you should come th a meeting some time and introduce yourself as the forgetful one that says ther are non specific although they have never been like that at the meetings I have attended.

    Go to vote1ala.org and watch the videos then come back with your updated thoughts!

  21. Colin Barnett went to an election more than 10 years ago with a $10 billion plan to transport water from the north to the SW. The media and the usual suspects panned it and he lost the election, and it has gone off the agenda despite there being one dam in the north containing 10X more water than all the dams in the SW.

    WA missed an opportunity to drought proof (whether it proves needed or not) itself for a century and become a leader in a major future industry of long distance water transport.

    And $10billion is peanuts compared to what will be spent on the highspeed rail boondogle.

  22. Philip – have you seen how the BoM rainfall maps for March and April to date – despite above average rain over some areas of SW WA – indicate a deficiency over Perth catchments. You were saying on another thread about the Perth urban area inhibiting rain.
    March WA rain percentages map
    April to date WA rain percentages map

    Re Colin’s great pipeline proposal – about a decade ago I quickly said on the Perth Water Users page –
    [longer term a pipeline south from the abundant water in northern WA should be investigated as part of a process where along the route the water contributes to “Nation building”, establishing new communities in new economic zones, involving food production by new migrants, supplying Pilbara industry, WA mining regions etc. Not simply a pipeline to Perth.]
    I doubt any project of that type could see light of day in modern Australia so dominated by the GreenLeft. Not to mention the inevitable rent-seekers. Pioneers could build the Kalgoorlie pipeline before Federation – I doubt it could be built now.

  23. Wazsah, if you look at the rainfall totals for the last week (ending the 15th today) in WA, the rainfall deficiency over central Perth/the heavily urbanized corridor out past the airport and then downwind is even clearer.

    www.bom.gov.au/jsp/awap/rain/index.jsp?colour=colour&time=latest&step=0&map=totals&period=week&area=wa

    The rain came from the North and NW and was a mixture of light and heavy.

    In part, the reason aerosol (and maybe particulates as well) rainfall suppression is particularly noticeable in Perth is the air will arrive off the Indian Ocean with very low levels of aerosols. Meaning a relatively small increase in aerosols will have a relatively large effect.

    I don’t know where else in Australia gets the combination of prolonged light rain and unpolluted air off the ocean we see in these rain events in Perth.

    Re, Colins’ Canal. I actually consider opening up the interior and the Pilbara and Gascoyne Coast more important than ‘drought proofing Perth’. Off to Coral Bay in a couple of weeks. Beautiful place, but the water is undrinkable.

  25. Water transport I think would be very inexpensive if the pipes are run next to the train lines which are for the most part flat.
    The only problem is security given the large numbers of people in Australia that are seeking to do us harm.
    The pipes from Warragamba dam to Sydney have 24/7 mobile security patrols, lucky Sydney has a Desal plant just in case the worst happens, we will still have drinking water.

  27. As for not seeing rainfall suppression over Perth in the historical data (and the term data is used loosely here), it may be removed by whatever processing occurs.

    This from the BoM site.

    The analyses are computer generated using a sophisticated analysis technique described in Jones et al. (2009). This method uses an optimised Barnes successive correction technique that applies a weighted averaging process to the station data. Topographical information is included by the use of rainfall ratio (actual rainfall divided by monthly average) in the analysis process. On the maps each gridpoint represents an approximately square area with sides of about 5 kilometres (0.05 degrees). The size of the grids is limited by the data density across Australia.

    This gridpoint analysis technique provides an objective average for each grid square and enables useful estimates in data-sparse areas such as central Australia. However, in data-rich areas such as southeast Australia or in regions with strong gradients, ‘data smoothing’ will occur resulting in gridpoint values that may differ slightly from the exact rainfall amount measured at the contributing stations.

  28. I wanted to highlight,

    data smoothing’ will occur

    But don’t know if HTML will break your site.

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