According to the ABC – a recent article by Professor Matthew England University of New South Wales – has claimed – “…stronger than normal winds in the Pacific are the explanation for a pause in global warming…”
I just thought I would open this for discussion here.
Does anybody know of long term land based wind observations in the tropical Pacific.
“But the heat uptake is by no means permanent: when the trade wind strength returns to normal – as it inevitably will
Leaving aside the claimed ocean heat uptake for which there is little evidence; ref Argo (methodologically flawed as they drift) and Trenbeth’s missing heat.
Looks to me like a negative feedback. Entirely expected. Increased (by however much) heat input, then thermostatic mechanisms increase to compensate.
The ‘inevitably will’ looks to be the usual dud AGW prediction. Arctic Sea Ice Death Spiral anyone?
US Meteorologist Joe Bastardi of Weatherbell is going ballistic about this paper:
“In other words, those “scientists” are trying to figure out why the planet isn’t cooperating with their scare mongering rhetoric.”
“Bastardi blasted the authors of the study for “discovering” what’s been known for decades and re-shaping the findings of others to fit their agenda”
Link found at: twitchy.com/2014/02/09/its-nuts-joe-bastardi-shreds-global-warming-study-for-stealing-and-repackaging-ideas-of-others/#.UvggatEm4pE.twitter
The two primary drivers of average global temperatures explain the reported up and down measurements since before 1900 with 90% accuracy and provide credible estimates back to the low temperatures of the Little Ice Age (1610).
CO2 change is NOT one of the drivers.
The drivers are given at
agwunveiled.blogspot.com/
which includes eye opening graphs and a plethora of links and sub-links to the credible data sources that were used.
Global warming weakening Pacific Ocean wind pattern, study says
Posted 5/3/2006 2:27 PM ET
NEW YORK (AP) — Global warming caused by human activity has begun to dampen an important wind circulation pattern over the Pacific Ocean, and that could alter climate and the marine food chain in that area, a new study suggests.
www.geo.utexas.edu/climate/archive/NEWS/May3_2006.htm
(snicker, couldn’t be a NEGATIVE FEEDBACK could it??)
This one is for North Pacific 2012.
www.soest.hawaii.edu/MET/Hsco/Trade%20wind%20changes%20JGR%202012.pdf
WHOI slide show 2006:
coaps.fsu.edu/scatterometry/meeting/docs/2006/yu.pdf
Quickscat site:
jisao.washington.edu/quikscat/
Not quite what you were looking for but these have some useful information.
“The study found that the winds were churning the Pacific like a washing machine, bringing the deeper colder water to the surface and pushing the warmer water below.”
NOAA: Cold, salty water sinks to the bottom of the ocean
oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/coldocean.html
As Judith Curry points out. If the heat is being sequestered in the deep ocean, the laws of thermodynamics say it aint coming back up on any human relevant timescale.
Tim Flannery is still consuming more carbon than the average small town: pindanpost.com/2014/02/12/correcting-false-claims/
“would weaker winds cause global warming?”
Just errect wind turbines all over the planet to test this theory. Which leads to the question are the stronger winds just wind that is going around wind turbines instead of the path of more resistance through them? Oh and should nations that have suffered stronger winds be entitled to compensation from countries that have wind turbines?