Piers Akerman has just written an article reviewing the 22 year old Heiner Affair which originated when documents relating to child abuse were shredded by the Goss Queensland Labor Govt in 1990. The documents related to an inquiry into the former John Oxley Youth Detention Centre headed by former magistrate Noel Heiner in 1989. One of the victims who was pack raped while in Qld Govt care was recently paid $120,000 and is said to be travelling to Canberra to make her case known.
As Piers Akerman explains – a 2,800 page audit document pulling together the whole saga and composed by Sydney QC David Rofe was emailed to all Senators on Australia day last month. Some leading figures in powerful positions now are involved.
The Parliamentary Standing Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs in 2004 posted documents on the subject – look for Volume 2. That committee no longer exists.
Anybody concerned could write to their Senators and ask what they intend doing.
Warwick thank you for posting on this sad matter
In my view members of the executive are not above the law
The most informative site on this affair is the Heiner website www.heineraffair.info/
Start with the categories on the left hand side – the first category is ‘what is heiner about’
Chris Barrett writing in the Brisbane Times in April 2009 puts the history succinctly
Warwick in his post refers to the 2,800 page document e mailed to Senators last weekend; I suspect this is the nine volume audit by Rofe QC referred to in the article above; I’ve written to Senator Boyce this week asking her for a copy of this document but no reply as yet
What’s at stake? As the article What’s the Heiner Affair About puts it:
The next category is Timeline of Events; the documents generated by the Heiner Inquiry and possibly documents from other quarters relevant to allegations concerning the inquiry, the Youth Detention Centre and others involved comprised over 100 hours of taped evidence and other material. This is the evidence which was shredded – the Timeline states that the Gosss cabinet ordered their destruction on 5 March 1990
At that time Kevin Rudd was chief of staff to the Qld Premier Goss
On 23 March 1990 the documents were destroyed
That time line was prepared using the source documents on www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/goss/
As to the time line on the inquiries there was an initial inquiry by the Queensland Parliamentary Crime and Misconduct Committee and since then things have moved to the Federal arena.
Piers Ackerman writing on 27/9/2007 see www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/goss/piers01.htm says Labor Senators twice blocked attempts by Queensland National Party Senator Barnaby Joyce to table the full 3000-page nine-volume Rofe report in federal parliament last week
As Piers says in his latest article
and an attempt to have the matter debated in the Senate was stopped by the Labor Party and the Greens, with former Family First Senator Steven Fielding voting to stop the matter being raised (in this case he acted against his Party’s Policy.)
As I said at the beginning of this long comment (sorry Warwick) it is an important principle in our legal system that all citizens are equal before the law even members of the executive (government) and judges and that is what is at stake here
This is the biggest scandal our nation has ever had to confront.
The issue now facing every Senator – all 76 of them – is, given that they cannot unknow what they know, how can they keep this information from the Australian people, especially because one of the allegations of serious wrongdoing concerns GG Bryce when she was Governor of Queensland in the period 2003-2005.
If the Senators conceal what they know about her, then they will be turning our constitutional monarchy system of government on its head.
Why has the rest of the MSM left all the hard yards on this disgraceful affair to Piers Akerman?
Why are all politicians silent when they must have known about it for a long time?
NOT good enough!
I can surmise only that both sides of politics have some involvement they do not want to see aired–though Labor clearly has a lot of the ignominy attached to what was a cover up of massive proportions.
Jazza to be fair there has been other media involved
You can see the print media news here www.heineraffair.info/index.html
and on the right hand side of that page Heiner News Coverage from various outlets
Piers article is the only one I’ve been able to find about the Senators receiving the 2,800 page report but he may have been the only reporter advised about that occurrence
Barnaby Joyce has a long running interest and has attempted to table the Rofe report in the Senate in (I think) 2007 – but I may be wrong about that but I think that is what Piers is referring to here blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/piersakerman/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/heiner_affair_inaction_appalling/
But I do totally agree with you that the MSM except for Piers are silent now
How to support Piers; write to your local senator; write to newspapers and spread the word
Alan Jones interviews Piers Ackerman today www.2gb.com/index2.php?option=com_newsmanager&task=view&id=11586
I have just been sent this link to a recent talk 4 March 2012 public address to the Toowoomba Branch of ACM.
I will be watching to see if the Queensland election landslide has any implications for resolving the Heiner Affair – which after all originated there.
Warwick thanks for posting on this
At about the time of my post above (8/2/2012) I wrote to my local senator (Boyce) and Barnaby Joyce (not my local senator)
And the only senator I’ve had a reply from is Barnaby Joyce
Bit sad when elected reps are not interested enough in their local constituents to reply to a matter of concern
Dear Fellow Australians
I generally don’t join in these debates/discussions because, as a matter of principle, I normally speak directly to people, notwithstanding this is doing so directly via cyberspace.
I note that my public address to the ACM Toowoomba on 4 March 2012 has been posted here. Some 60 people were in attendance. I was invited to speak.
I consider it to be my “bookend” speech.
It brings us to an endpoint of this long 22-year struggle for justice, and attempts to explain why the Heiner Affair is so unprecedented in Australian political history and so important in the continuing challenge for us all to ensure that we are always governed by the rule of law, and never by the arbitrary political desires of men/women.
The principles at stake should concern us all, not just those who have been harmed by the massive abuse of power on display in the Heiner Affair.
Equality before the law for all is, or ought to be, a non-negotiable value of our nation.
I am not at liberty to disclose the contents of the Rofe QC Audit except that if your elected representatives are now aware of them in respect of certain public officials, then your/our “right to know” – as we the people – cannot be surely denied by those whom we have elected without fundamentally damaging the foundation of our democracy.
A society knowingly kept in darkness about the probity of its officials is neither democratic nor safe.
While I shall continue with this struggle, it is as much yours as it is mine.
Do not sit idly by as a spectator.
See new article by Piers Akerman:
Queensland Premier must rebuild trust … Piers Akerman Sunday 1 April 2012
Beachgirl thanks for that link
and here’s Alan Jones talking to Piers
The type of cover up is not something new to some of us. We have suspected it for a very long time, but how can we, the little people, fight against these giants who ooze power and confidence over us and shut us down at every turn.
This woman’s suffering will be with her for the rest of her life made worse by the Silencing Payout. She is not alone, there are many others who have suffered the same fate.
The Australian Government should stop playing God or parent to Australian families by taking their children and putting them into institutional and foster care. Family is one of the most important institutions in the world and should be respected at all costs. Families should not be punished due to low income or having a dirty house and the sole reason for having their children taken away from them. It simply does not make sense to pay a stranger to care for these children when the parents could have been given the money in such hard times. Has this government not learned anything from its past, The Stolen Generation, Adopted children from England, Forde Inquiry and many others. Why do we see the same mistakes happening over and over? Are these people not intellectuals? Or is it that they forget to represent the people who put them there? Children die in foster care too and yet foster parents seem not to be held accountable for their actions compared to parents who are demonized and punished.
While we are at it, the conduct of the Department of Child Safety in Queensland leaves a lot to be desired. It needs to be thoroughly investigated by someone other than another government department. It is unethical, unjust and violates families human rights and social justice when a Department investigates itself. Proof of this exists in Departmental documentation when they have been asked to report their findings to a parent’s complaint to the Crime and Misconduct Commission. This equates to non-transparency, not being accountable and telling lies to hide their evil deeds.
Mandatory reporting should be revisited and better instruments used for Notifications received, which may be based on vicious complaints. Research has shown how much parents and children suffer when they are separated.
The Department of Child Safety needs to be monitored more appropriately. Presently they are doing a good job of destroying families. Parents, grand parents and others are disrespected, not included in decision making processes, set up to fail at meetings, court hearings stalled due to presenting affidavits and the list goes on. They presently have an us and them mentality which is destructive. They display unprofessionalism when they take delight in removing children from their families.
There are so many families fighting the system. Can someone out there please listen to their pleas? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OUR CHILDREN WHO MAY BE TOMORROW’S LEADERS. Maybe that is what is needed to make a great leader, a child who has suffered at the hands of government departments to show all of us what to do.
Good news – Newman government to consider new Heiner inquiry: Attorney-General
April 12, 2012
Queensland’s new Attorney-General, Jarrod Bleijie, has committed the LNP Government to review the controversial Heiner affair if there is new evidence, or evidence that was ‘‘not properly looked at’’.
The Heiner affair refers to the 1990 shredding of evidence into 1988 child sex abuse at the John Oxley Youth Detention Centre at Wacol.
Hmm.. another Claytons Inquiry.
Recall that the Borbidge (Nationals) Government’s Morris-Howard Inquiry into Heiner was constrained:”The investigation by the barristers will be ‘on the papers’, with no witnesses being called or orally testimony asked for or given.”
Heiner needs a Special Prosecutor to be appointed, as called for by Heiner whistleblower Kevin Lindeberg. Otherwise, we end up with another “Fair Work” type Inquiry, with little (judicial) substance.
very informative
4BC Mornings: Heiner Affair aka shreddergate still in the news after 18 years. Bruce Grundy Former Editor of the Weekend Independent talked to Greg Cary about the scandal that still continues today after many years.
www.4bc.com.au/blogs/4bc-blog/the-heiner-affair/20120412-1wva3.html
this site introduces readers to Queensland’s new Attorney General
www.lawyersweekly.com.au/news/newman-appoints-rookie-ag
oh, experience in corporate and property law but
we’ll see
Again I shall not comment too much at this stage but I think that Romanoz’s comment needs attention.
What is being proposed because of uniqueness of the Heiner Affair (namely who is allegedly involved)is that Parliament is required to establish a “Parliamentary Commission of Inquiry” by an Act of Parliament. It would be very different to the 1996 Morris QC/Howard investigation which was established by the Executive (i.e. the Cabinet).
The proposed Parliamentary Commission of Inquiry has the full powers of a commission of inquiry, and, in this instance, would be headed by three retired senior judges, asssisted by counsel assisting and other staff. In short, it would be the most powerful investigative body capable of being established, and able to access what it wanted and to cross-examine whom it wanted. The Act would stipulate the timeline and terms of reference. It would report to Parliament, and would be independent.
I trust that this clears the air.
Piers Ackerman is reporting that
read more at the link
They considered it on 12 June 2012. So why is the media not reporting about the consideration?
Editor note: Gidday Fritz – I think “Heiner” is too complex for 99% of the MSM – which is mostly GreenLeft influenced anyway.
By the way, here some more information to it:
heiner-affair.blogspot.com/
update on the Heiner affair www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/heiner-affair-set-for-another-examination-after-premier-campbell-newman-confirmed-the-commission-of-inquiry-into-child-protection-could-include-re-examination-of-issues/story-e6freoof-1226412195427
Mr Newman stressed ….
So … we’ll see
update on the Heiner affair
www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/child-protection-inquiry-head-tim-carmody-should-step-down-from-position-barrister-says/story-fndo45r1-1226428000532
It’s good to see that Rolfe SQ remains involved
Piers has another update on the Heiner Affair
blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/piersakerman/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/heiner_commissioner_chokes_inquiry_thwarts_newman/
Piers writes in his inimitable style but I found the following article easier to follow from a legal point of view
But as Piers points out the Commissioner’s ruling puts the role of public servants into well …. limbo – they’re not part of Government
Kevin Lindeberg may be the minority in having the utmost confidence in Mr Carmody in relation to all other parts of the inquiry. It is important to understand that all parts of the inquiry are undertaken in a responsible and honest manner. Hence it is impossible to imagine how as lawyer Micheael Bosscher states “…you commissioner, in a nutshell, may in fact be called upon to judge your own conduct in relation to your involvement and the commission’s involvement in the Heiner affair.” It is not only unethical but unjust that this conduct could ever be accepted in any inquiry, and that the Commissioner himself may ask and answer his own questions. It is simply not good enough that someone in charge of the CMC failed to investigate appropriately at the time. So basically what we are being told is that someone who failed to investigate and did not at the time, is now in charge of investigating the Heiner Affair. I am sure that this position is worth fighting for especially the $$$$ signs. When someone fails to investigate in any position they hold, signifies a pattern of neglect, irresponsible behaviour and lack of respect for the victims and children in care which equates to a waste of time and money on this inquiry.
Halle that’s a perceptive comment but I think the Commissioner decided that the conduct of Queensland Crime Commission during the relevant years was not relevant to the enquiry because the Commission in his view did not form part of ‘government’ which is what the Terms of Reference require him to investigate
and therefore he did not have to investigate his own actions when he led that Commission
so in his view there could be no perception of bias
Val, a legal eagle will always have an answer for everything. Nevertheless, it is the Commissioner who has made this decision and no-one in higher office. Furthermore, when a government is asked to undertake an investigation it also employs public servants to do that job. Hence it is difficult to understand how government and public servants can ever be considered separate.
Halle I agree
Briefly for other readers the Carmody commission terms of reference 3e obliges the commission to “review the adequacy and appropriateness of any response of and action taken by government to allegations including any allegations of criminal conduct associated with government responses into historic child sexual abuse in youth detention centres”.
Mr Carmody interpreted the terms of reference referring to government action and response “as referring to the political executive – that is the Premier and cabinet”.
Is he right …. I would disagree
Is his decision appellable? I have no idea
Thank you for your contribution and explanations Val. Hopefully someone else may be able to shed more light on this very sad state of affairs and give their views. Perhaps there is also someone else out there who may know if Mr Carmody’s own decision can be appellable. It would have to be someone who knows the ins and outs of the legal system and who is very good at it. Here’s hoping.
thanks Halle
for legal enthusiasts here’s the website of the Commission
www.childprotectioninquiry.qld.gov.au/
which I have rather belatedly come across (with some assistance and thanks for that)
the hearings link contains transcripts and the Commissioner’s ruling on the recusal app
If Warwick gets time he might put the link in the post
updates on Heiner
• by: PIERS AKERMAN
• From: The Australian
• August 11, 2012 12:00AM
• www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/two-decades-on-and-search-for-justice-in-the-heiner-affair-continues/story-e6frg6z6-1226447868515
AN extraordinary document has been lodged with Queensland’s Child Protection Commission of Inquiry and released to the public. In support of an application for the Commissioner to recuse himself, it includes unsubstantiated claims that there may be sufficient cause for the conduct of the Governor-General Quentin Bryce and six serving Queensland judicial officers to be investigated for possible breaches of Section 87 of the Queensland Criminal Code, relating to official corruption.
and that the very important posting that has gone out to the world via “The Heiner Affair” webpage as from 8 August 2012.
www.heineraffair.info/
Piers mentions in his article:
The Child Protection Commission has been deluged with requests for the Rofe Audit, Exhibit 5 (attachment 2) and has asked that callers use its website info@childprotectioninquiry.qld.gov.au when seeking a copy.
I can confirm the Rofe Audit is riveting.
Here’s Kevin Lindeberg sharing with Greg Carey his passion about justice being served and the way forward.
www.4bc.com.au/blogs/4bc-blog/whistleblower-kevin-lindeberg/20120815-24863.html
Please take the time to listen
Val, I have requested the Rofe Audit, Exhibit 5 (Attachment 2) via the website as you mentioned above. I received an email to say that they had tried to send the document but that it had returned undelivered to them. They then wanted my postal address to send me a dvd. I have now received this dvd and it will not let me use it, but I have strange noises coming from the computer. Can you explain what has happened here? It did have a password I was suppose to use, but I cannot even open it. I thought the d drive was broken so I inserted another disc, but had no problems with it. Has anyone else received the Rofe Audit by email or disc? I look forward to hearing from others experiences. Can I access the Rofe Audit another way?
Halle it does need a password and I’ll try to find it and let you know
Halle download from here www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/goss/
It’s now a public document – The password is also on that site
Halle if you have any trouble let me know, I didn’t have any trouble, my computer has a fairly fast download 1.52 Mbps
try the dvd first, you would need to first download the document and then open it and it is when you’re at that stage you would need the password to open the document
any probs let me know
Val, I went to the site as in comment 33, and then entered the password as shown on the dvd and it worked. I have downloaded it now and will read it eventually. It is a huge document. Thank you for your help.
copy of an e mail I received from Kevin Lindebergh yesterday reposted here with his permission:
Val;
see also Newman’s attempt to exonerate the Dam Engineers as reported The Australian Tues. Sept 25.
The charitable interpretation is that he is trying to avoid the massive claims likely if judgement was allowed to stand, as budget is already in trouble.
The other possibility is that the Public Service are protecting their own, but surely not?
noticed that Graeme, curious it’s a US report with (to me at least) unknown terms of reference
Hedley Thomas had an article about it in the Oz today ‘the great Wivenhoe debacle’
www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/the-great-wivenhoe-debacle/story-e6frg6z6-1226480592519
I suspect the US report is light weight
updates on the Heiner affair:
check out Bruce Grundy’s speech
www.heineraffair.info/site_pages/Speech%20given%20to%20Queenslanders%20for%20a%20Constitutional%20Monarchy.html
Shreddergate And Other Cover-Ups.
Bruce is a journalist who has been following Shreddergate since its inception
From that page you have a link to the Inquiry’s website and if you scroll down to the end you find Bruce Grundy’s recusal application (that’s the application to which I refer in comment 22 above)